Two days ago, Batman-News reported on Jai Courtney‘s appearance on MTV podcast “Happy, Sad, Confused!” In this podcast, Courtney discusses his role in Suicide Squad, the critical backlash, and the differences between Marvel and DC in superhero movies.
The relevant portion of the interview:
JOSH HOROWITZ: Uh, post mortem on Suicide Squad. So, what’s, what’s your sense, were you surprised by the reaction, by how divisive it was? […] It seemed like the fanboys in particular really came after it. Did that surprise you guys?
JAI COURTNEY: Did they? I didn’t [beep]in’ — See, I didn’t, I’m so like, out of touch sometimes. If things get a bit noisy, like, I stop listening, you know?
JH: That’s probably healthy.
JC: Look, it performed incredibly well. And I mean, we all know that a film doesn’t have to be great in order to do that. I really enjoyed Suicide Squad. I think you ask for it in that realm no matter what, I mean, can you think of an example of one that the fanboys haven’t come after? Can you tell me? I mean I’m sure the answer is yes.
JH: Well I mean, there’s, to the extreme, there’s obviously the Chris Nolan films, which everyone went insane for.
JC: Yeah, of course. They’re great. Chris Nolan films, that’s cool, that’s a different thing.
JH: There seems to be like a trust thing, I think. One of the problems, maybe, is beyond a particular film, it’s that DC is still figuring out what the vibe is and everything —
JC: Well, DC’s still the bad guy, too, you know.
JC: And Marvel has this incredible formula, that seems to work. And you know, I think some elements of those movies — not that I see a lot of them — I think that some of them are done really really well-handled, and are very entertaining. And they’ve done a wonderful, they’ve had sort of the time to let that [beep] marinate to a point. Everything’s established now. We don’t have to figure out who anyone is, it’s like “Cool. Get them all together and have a [beep]ing orgy and make a billion dollars.” And that’s great, man, like, mate, I think it’s awesome. Listen, if I was playing Thor for the ninth time, I’d be stoked as well, as I’m sure Chris is. But, you know, how do you please everyone? I don’t think Suicide Squad ever intended to. So whilst no one’s setting out to upset the fan base, certainly not a fan base that can be as loyal as this kind of crowd can. But I don’t know how you can push the envelope or try and protect something [without taking risks]…..I know what I like in a movie, and it’s not the same thing as my twelve-year-old niece….It’s a challenge, and David [Ayer] did an incredible job, and I sure as hell hope we get to make another one with him.
Courtney also went on to mention that he would love to be in The Flash.
Overall, a really interesting take on some of the hot-button issues surrounding Suicide Squad and the reaction thereto. Jai Courtney’s comments on Marvel really speak to a balanced opinion on the franchise — while he admits he doesn’t watch a lot of the movies, he points out the formula does exist there.
The ‘orgy’ comment likely makes a good soundbite — and it does make a point of its own about how messy films like Civil War have the potential to get. However, his comment on loyalty really ranks as the most important part of the discussion.
The DCEU can’t please everyone, and part of its strengths come out of not trying to. No DCEU formula yet exists.
I posit that that’s a good thing.
Either way, great discussion between Horowitz and Courtney, and here’s to hoping for that sequel!